RALLY AGAINST BEAR MOUNTAIN'S INTERCHANGE!

topic posted Thu, February 14, 2008 - 6:55 AM by  jess
please come!
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ALL OUT!


RALLY AGAINST BEAR MOUNTAIN'S INTERCHANGE!



THURSDAY, FEB 14 @ 5PM
Trans-Canada Highway at Spencer Road
(Shell Station at the last lights before Goldstream)




Bring friends and family -- and banners, noisemakers, warm clothing and rain gear.



Witnesses and eco-defenders maintain a presence all day until the Rally (meeting at the Shell Station at 7AM).
Please come when you can and maintain the challenge against Langford's Development Mafia and their RCMP stooges.
The desecration of fragile ecosystems on traditional Coast Salish lands must end.




PROTECT GOLDSTREAM!
END SPRAWL!
STOP BEAR MOUNTAIN'S INTERCHANGE!




Coalition to Protect Goldstream Watershed
protectgoldstream@gmail.com

Organizing Meeting: Thursday 7:30pm
@ Camas Books (2590 Quadra at Kings)
posted by:
jess
Canada
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    Thu, February 14, 2008 - 10:26 AM
    Media advisory
    Press conference
    10 am Thursday, February 14
    Spencer Road and the TransCanada Highway, Langford
    Interview opportunities: Tree sitters, Eric Pelkey of the Sencoten Alliance, Zoe
    Blunt.
    Plus action updates and a view of the destruction

    Interchange overkill destroys more than forests

    Dozens of police with high-powered rifles raided the tree sit camp before dawn
    yesterday in a disturbing show of force aimed at a handful of peaceful protestors
    who were all asleep. The massive attack by police had more than 50 RCMP officers --
    many with assault rifles drawn and pointed at the campers -- surrounding the camp
    before dawn. In the end, only three people were taken into custody by police.

    This level of aggressive overreaction characterizes the whole Bear Mountain project,
    from the resort to the interchange. Bulldozing public participation along with rare
    ecosystems and heritage sites is a hallmark of this process, and it destroys more
    than forests. Observers have noted the loan for the interchange project is not yet
    approved by the province, but the city is already clearing the land, no doubt to
    remove any possibility of a negotiated settlement.

    The area is sealed off by police tape and RCMP patrols. Earth-moving equipment was
    trucked in and the destruction has begun. From Leigh Road, we could see trees on the
    ridge above falling to a feller buncher - a giant tree-cutting machine.

    We also saw welding and rock-drilling equipment being moved in behind police lines.
    It's possible that one of Langford's first acts of destruction was to weld shut the
    entrance of the Langford Lake Cave.

    First Nations people whose families traditionally used the caves have been turned
    away from the site and threatened with arrest for "trespassing" in the area, which
    is still marked on city maps as Leigh Park.

    But the developers have not yet won. These acts have outraged the community, and
    more people are coming out to protest today and in the days to come. The first rally
    kicks off this afternoon at 5 pm at Spencer Road and the TransCanada Highway in
    Langford. Witnesses and eco-defenders will be maintaining a presence on the site all
    day.
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      Thu, February 14, 2008 - 2:54 PM
      It’s a shame but urban sprawl is going to happen if we like it or not The fact is people need places to live. I live out in East Sooke and I think Sooke has the worst urban sprawl I've ever seen. Has anyone seen the road from sooke in the morning ridiculous. At least Bear Mountain is very condensed basically one house on top of the other so they are getting maximum space out of the land and Bear mountain was bought from a logging company so it was already logged to hell and now they utilized that already logged mountain for a condensed housing project. Did you know that the rainforests are being cut down every year about the size of the Island of Jamaica. That logging actually effects the total world pollution and rain. No rain forests no rain. The rainforests being cut down is a way bigger problem affecting the entire worlds atmosphere. Their are bigger battles to be fought my friends that are affecting our atmosphere hugely. Much more than the Bear Mountain interchange. Frankly we don't have the right to cut down trees that are older than our grandparents but will this interchange help to make peoples travel from work and back shorter yes thus cutting down polution in the long run. The rainforests being cut down at such an alarming rate is really a bigger problem or how about the pine beatle ravaging our forests in the kooteny region? Much more trees where destroyed by the pine beetle than bear mountain interchange. Choose your battles wisley one problem is getting the publics attention but thier are much bigger problems out thier that should be getting more attention because they are actually effecting the worlds climate. Did you know the boreal forest Ie the forest in the kooteny region are responsible for about %30 of the worlds oxygen and where losing them to the pine beatle that will really effect the worlds oxygen supply and our health.
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        Wed, February 20, 2008 - 9:01 AM
        A 'Hundred Voices of Conscience' urgent action is being called for Thursday morning, February 21st, meeting at the Shell Station at Spencer's Rd. and the Trans-Canada Highway at 7 am. Pledge-makers and their supporters will meet at this time for final action planning and legal briefing.

        Hundred Voices is a campaign of non-violent civil resistance aimed at halting further construction of the Bear Mountain development and its interchange and preventing unneccessary destruction of the natural world.

        Over three days a large number of pledges for peaceful direct have been signed and with your participation we can continue to halt work on the interchange.

        To have some sense of what kind of action we can co-ordinate for this day it would be appreciated if pledge-makers could RSVP; along with any questions regarding this action (hundredvoice@gmail.com). Legal info/support and child care will be provided to those who need it.

        **********************************************
        Hundred Voices of Conscience


        Call to Mass, Peaceful, Direct Action

        Against the Bear Mountain Development and
        Further Construction of the Interchange


        This past week's paramilitary-style police operation
        sanctioned by the City of Langford, to circumvent the
        growing legitimate public opposition to the Bear
        Mountain interchange, was a heavy-handed assault
        against land, local democracy and current, widespread
        ecological consciousness.

        At a time of unprecedented ecological crisis, it is
        the moral obligation of the entire human community to
        take immediate action to prevent unnecessary harm and
        destruction to the natural world and all its inhabitants;
        and to reverse developments that systematically destroy
        the life-support systems of the earth for profit.


        Hundred Voices of Conscience, inspired by the
        Ghandian tradition of mass civil resistance, is a call:

        1. To gain the pledge of a minimum of 100 conscientious
        citizens who will peacefully, simultaneously and with dignity,
        incur the risk of arrest, to cross police lines surrounding the
        forest of the proposed Bear Mountain interchange;

        2. To intervene between the land and earth-moving
        machinery;

        3. And to act on our civic duty to prevent unnecessary
        harm to the delicate ecosystems around Spencer's Pond
        and the Langford Lake caves; and to prevent further
        build-out of the Bear Mountain development on Spaet (Skirt)
        Mountain, shared traditional territories of Coast Salish peoples.

        We seek solidarity with like-minded individuals
        willing to make a commitment to a community initiative
        of mass non-violent direct action at an undisclosed
        time and place. Legal training and support will be provided.


        If you wish to be one of the Hundred Voices of
        Conscience, please sign the pledge and arrange to return
        it by emailing hundredvoice@gmail.com as soon as possible.

        PLEDGE

        I pledge to participate in the Hundred Voices of
        Conscience to peacefully take a stand of non-violent
        civil resistance to the unwise, destructive and unjust
        construction of the Bear Mountain Development and
        interchange.

        By so doing, I agree to the Hundred Voices of
        Conscience Code of Conduct.



        Hundred Voices of Conscience – Code of Conduct

        1. I refrain from any action that harms or damages
        nature or property.

        2. I treat everyone I meet with friendliness and
        openness about my intentions and motivations for
        participating in this action.

        3. I look after the safety of my fellow resisters.

        4. I expect to be treated with dignity and respect –
        free from harassment, harm and injury by all who I encounter.


        Name_____________________________
        Date _____________________________
        Phone_____________________________
        Email______________________________


        Email hundredvoice@gmail.com as soon as possible.
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          Thu, February 21, 2008 - 4:14 PM
          hi- a couple emails to pass on. But i don't/i won't pass on all emails here so if you want continued updates, get on the hundred voice email list (see above) and email zoeblunt@gmail.com

          okay that's all! i don't want to excessively post on here

          thnx <3
          ************************************

          Greetings,

          I just left the Spencer Rd./Trans Canada intersection 20 minutes ago, and at that time three activists were occupying three Garry Oak trees that were about to be cut down for the highway interchange.
          We were there to wave signs on the side of the road, but when the work crew showed up, tree-sitters climbed the trees before the chainsaws could even be unloaded from the trucks.
          A lone RCMP officer arrived on the scene and tried to climb one of the trees, but the tree-sitter climbed higher. The officer climbed down and informed the tree-sitters they were under arrest, and it seems he is just waiting for them to come down and be arrested.
          Supporters are on the scene, but more people are needed to come out and show support, as we do not know how long this stand-off will occur.



          -in solidarity with all life,
          Kalanu
          treesit.blogspot.com
          bullsheet.wordpress.com
          pedaltopetal.blogspot.com



          “Our work will be unfinished until not one human being is hungry or
          battered, not one single person is forced to die in war, not one innocent languishes imprisoned and no one is persecuted for his or her beliefs."
          Leonard Peltier
          *************************************************************

          Direct resistance to construction of Langford's highly controversial
          Bear Mountain interchange continued with quiet diligence today, as
          small groups of concerned citizens intervened to slow down the process
          of destruction tearing up the land for the proposed right-of way.

          Work was halted for several hours early in the morning when a group
          of fifteen citizens peacefully blocked a log truck hauling out fresh
          cut trees and several protestors stopped the yarding activities in a
          clearcut adjacent to the Langford Lake caves.

          By afternoon another group of concerned citizens touring the work
          site noticed a falling crew set to cut into an Oak meadow, considered
          one of Canada's most endangered ecosystems. Several individuals
          climbed the trees to prevent further cutting. So far no charges have
          been laid against anybody.

          Members of the public are invited to join the growing groundswell of
          opposition to this unethical and destructive development at an action
          to witness and resist the daily destruction:


          WHEN: TOMORROW, Friday, February 22 at Noon
          Meet at the Shell Sation at Spencer's Road and the
          Trans-Canada Highway

          There will be opportunities for support activities and also more
          active forms of peaceful resistance. Bring snacks, water, sturdy
          footwear, banners and noisemakers.

          TOGETHER WE CAN STOP BEAR MOUNTAIN and it's INTERCHANGE !!!!!
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        Fri, February 22, 2008 - 9:52 AM
        Maybe you don't know what your are saying. It seems like you come from a good place with what you say so I do not want to critisize you, but what you say about shorter commutes and all that crap is highway industry propaganda and not even relevant to this interchange. Ok, so 18,000 cars go through that intersection every day, and maybe a third of them stop at the light for 20 seconds at a time, and yes that is idling. But most of the congestion happens at the Malahat, where the road narrows to two lanes. The interchange will make this worse because it will allow Bear Mountain to build out another 5000 or more units and that means (these are wealthy people who would never ride a bus) much more traffic. So we're trying t9o stop this development from building out by stopping this interchange and therefore slowing traffic down and keeping more traffic on the road.
        Secondly, yes, the logging companies did log it all to hell, but now it's going to be paved over. What's worse. And when the zoning changed from forest reserve land, it removed all sorts of restrictions and meant that the logging companies could clearcut it beofre they developed it, which they couldnt do under TFL regulations. They are not getting maximum space out of the land out there and it is the worst kind of unsustainable sprawl. Besides, it doesn't matter if they were building cob houses and ecovillages out there, this is a sacred mountaib to five different First Nations. This is unceded First nations territory and has sacred caves and burial sites. Maybe you think that the amazon is worth protecting more, but try telling that to the Tsartlip people and Saanich and Esquilmalt and Songhees people whose grandparents are buried up there.
        Maybe you have chosen your battles wisely and are actually doing something to stop logging on a global scale. If so, right on. But your comment triggers me because the vast majority of people who critisize our choice of target do so from the comfort of their couch where they only action they take to save forests is write letters, emails and encourage McDonalds boycotts. We put our life on the line for something close to home that has more meaning than you have yet to realize. We should be able to without people telling us we should be saving something else. You go save something else, we will continue to work on what is important to us and we shall call it diversity of tactics.
        And finally, the people in the Bear Mountain ghetto have places to live, in Calgary and Dubai and other rich places. The majority of the homes on the mountain are second homes. In North America this wealthy vacation home trend is eating up land and destroying sacred sites. These battles are being fought by people who as indigenous people have a family duty to protect sacred sites, and as their neighbours we are showing solidarity by helping them. Please educate yourselfs about this development and all the other developments that it represents. Fly off to Brazil if you want, but if you want to do something close to home, get on the number 50 right now and lock down for something very important.
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          Sun, February 24, 2008 - 8:16 AM
          I know that cutting down the trees is not right but the fact is victoria is growing alot and no matter what it's not going to stop. I was wondering to how did the logging companies come to own what is now Bear Mountain wouldn't the native people if they owned the mountain have been the ones to sell it to the logging companies in the first place? Just wondering to have they found any bariel sites on bear mountain? Also The houses being built on the mountain are defiantly not taking up a bunch of space have you scene them they are one on top of the other. Why in the name of profit would they want to get less houses out of the land when they can make more money by shoving in as many houses as they can? It's not that I agree with all of this it's just a practical fact economics. What neighborhood do you live in I guarantee that their where forests their at one time. The golf courses on bear mountain which is kinda ironic actually produces more oxygen then the forests would have in the first place. Yes I know their is alot of rich people buying house on bear mountain ( but you have to be rich to even buy a place on the island regardless) but their is alot of families to that live their and it's true no matter what people need places to live. One thing to is that Bear Mountain is providing thousands of jobs paying really good money. People need jobs so they can eat and live you can't blame them for needing places to live and jobs so they can support their families. I'm sure you must realize how expensive it is to live on the island. it's not that I support this but you have to look at in a practical way. You have to choose you battles wisely.
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            Sun, February 24, 2008 - 10:48 AM
            If that's the practical way of looking at things, then maybe we do need to be more visionary.
            I won't dismiss you comment about golf courses out of hand, but it seems absurd to me. But that's what it is about to most environmentalists. Not the land, not the wildlife, not the soil or the trees or the watersheds, but the air we breath. That's what has me the most pessimistic. Most of the green movement couldn't give a shit about the red-legged frogs and the camas until they found out their own lives were on the line, and then they became enviros and now all they can think about is everything in terms of climate change. Sure, it's the biggest problem, but in the meantime, nothing is inevitable, and if people do need places to live we need to force them to do it wisely. This development is the stupidist of all, and the golf courses up ther are a disgrace to the entire planet.
            Yes, there were burial sites out there, and no, the indigenous people did not sell it or even lose it in battle. It was straight up stolen in a violation of the colonial systems' own laws. They circumvented the Royal Proclamation of 1762 which stated that they must buy or win the land, by declaring it Terra Nulius, which meant there were no humans living here, thus they could colonize it without buying it or fighting for it. So they lied, broke their own laws and stole the land and it continues to be stolen land and the only thing they have done to legitimize it is to pay some indian act chiefs to look the other way. This is the paramount issue. Like I said, they could build an eco-village up ther and it would still be a travesty.
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              Mon, February 25, 2008 - 1:30 AM
              I had to laugh at this statement ''The golf courses on bear mountain which is kinda ironic actually produces more oxygen then the forests would have in the first place.'' correct me if I'm wrong but this is a total load of bullshit. I thought it was common knowledge that a diverse temperate rain forest [which it was] produces far more oxygen than a golf course which couldn't even be considered grassland as the blades are cut within a few inches year round on the majority of the course.
              A little science to back it up-
              www.globalchange.umich.edu/glob....html
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                Mon, February 25, 2008 - 5:54 PM
                as of the bear mountain golf corse they not cutting down trees but planting hundreds of trees also the tee offs are small short grass yea" but they are planting wild grass acres of it,(remember it was already logged) park land you can say but plants and grass with water falls & streams ,and I can say there are more developments going on besides bear mountain . and the trees they do end up cutting down they do use(they have a mill) thats one less tree cut down some ware else in b.c you know what ban smoking it creates forest fires yearly, in one year a careless smoker kills more trees then all those lumber jacks ,smoking kills
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                  Mon, February 25, 2008 - 6:01 PM
                  ''The golf courses on bear mountain which is kinda ironic actually produces more oxygen then the forests would have in the first place.''
                  No I meant the already logged forests not if the forests weren't logged at all. Good link though. I like how it broke down
                  Three hundred trout are needed to support one man for a year. The trout, in turn, must consume 90,000 frogs, that must consume 27 million grasshoppers that live off of 1,000 tons of grass.
                  -- G. Tyler Miller, Jr., American Chemist (1971)
                  Good quote
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                    Fri, February 29, 2008 - 12:55 AM
                    when you increase road capacity, the roads fill up and congestion re-occurs within a few years -- only now with more cars and more pollution. this is the biggest development lesson of the late 20th century. people are only now beginning to get it. better roads = more cars = more pollution.

                    rather, it's better to curtail driving by encouraging local community growth. suburban sprawl is only inevitable within the 1950's - 1990's urban development model, which urban planners all around north america are finally beginning to shift on. time to get out of the post-WWII mindset and start thinking about what we actually need to do to survive. we literally *WILL NOT SURVIVE* unless we change our ways drastically, and change starts locally.

                    peace out
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                      Fri, February 29, 2008 - 9:13 AM
                      me thinking as i log into tribe:
                      ..."hm, new posts on Bear Mtn Interchange post.. i wonder if Shiraz posted a super cogent response that sums everything up simply and intelligently like he usually does,,,,"

                      yup, he did
                      !
                      <3
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                      Sun, March 2, 2008 - 3:51 PM
                      ". time to get out of the post-WWII mindset and start thinking about what we actually need to do to survive. we literally *WILL NOT SURVIVE* unless we change our ways drastically, and change starts locally. "

                      Indeed.
                      If our economy and way of life is to be forever based on eternal suburban expansion, we're clearly doomed sooner or later. Anyone who thinks that exponential growth in a finite planet is possible for infinity, raise your hand!

                      People are finding new ways to live and new jobs to do every day. I look forward to the day when all loggers are out of business, having long since moved into other ways of meeting our paper needs that don't involve clearcutting old-growth forest.

                      The housing price increase can be seen as a great opportunity for change. The old "American Dream" of having your very own 4,000 sq ft McMansion is starting to crumble - good riddance. Get to know your neighbours :)

                      Sadly I feel like this development will in the end go through. If so, all the more reason to resist it as hard as possible every step of the way, so future bad ideas might be discouraged
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                        Fri, March 14, 2008 - 7:19 PM
                        good to hear bear mountain has the first adobie -cob houses going up and all the trees and plants they are doing a fine job ,
                        and being self sufficient 6 out of 10 for a thriffty's on the mountain supplying veggeys -food growen from the mountain, and all the amenitys close buy .
                        a safer place for kids to grow up , what if every one was cramed into one downtown core its already fucked up any how,
                        its not like bear mountain a negative place to live.
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                          Thu, March 20, 2008 - 11:55 AM
                          Bear Mountain self-sufficient -- how do you mean?
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                            Thu, March 20, 2008 - 2:30 PM
                            it is not 100 % self sufficient but a bet some stay up there all year, how may you ask its all about community ,Bear mountain has all you need to
                            live a sensible life ,you have a thrifftys grocery store on top of the mountain providing locally grown foods some from the mountain its self ,
                            A cob eco village because they are trying to promote eco housing. they have a gym to work out shopping coffee and golfing with eco golf carts, you can go for sushi with lots of heathy choices they have 2 pubs 2 hotels with conference rooms much needed after all the booking are down because people are scared to come back to victoria's problematic downtown for conferences.. they have a pool and parks for kids to play and be safe
                            they are also 5 minutes away from cosco for bulk buys of food, as of electrisity it's up to the individual to be energy sufficient ,it is hydro elctric anyways
                            not to bad ,theres talk of green roofs to. I don't see the big deal its not like we have to live in boxes like in japan,
                            the only thing were protesting against was the interchange .
                            half the people who were not for it it, live on bear mountain, and did not want there view blocked.


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                              Tue, March 25, 2008 - 9:26 PM
                              I'm of two minds on this one.I worked on Bear mountain (building rock walls) & I have to say that most of the forest(or lack of) did not look like it had been logged before.On the other hand urban sprawl is inevitable. I'm not sure of the "need" for the interchange but the placement douse indeed suck.It would have been nice to see more community debate beforehand but the developer has allot of money(power) & connections to local government.

                              I remember picking rock on top of the mountain just after they cut the road & thinking"this must have been an amazing place"
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                              Thu, March 27, 2008 - 10:41 AM
                              You are so full of misinformation. there are no cob houses, there is no food being grown on the mountain, there is no eco-village. the whole place is the opposite of an eco-village, built by people who think global warming is a myth.
                              Maybe you should drive up and check it out.
                              We protested the whole daman thing and we still do. I think what I said was EVEN IF it were an eco-village with cob houses, it is still on a sacred mountain stolen from the indigenous people.
                              However, despite that, the unsustainability and sheer rip-off of the place, not to mention the collusion and corruption to get this land turned into a Whistler-style golf community is something we all should be worried about.
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                                Thu, March 27, 2008 - 12:29 PM
                                Yes they have cob houses, but the new designs for condos the provide home's for 1000 of people & are energy efficient with lots of eco building materials which are ether recycled wood are cement based ect, ,its to "bad" that the native's did not get there share, it had a proposed casino resort type, really .
                                Did the native's use or visit this mountain in the last 30 years for anything? and what's wrong with Whistler ..
                                you should be worried about your tap water...
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                                  Fri, March 28, 2008 - 12:51 AM
                                  I've been all over the mountain & watched allot of the houses being built & I didn't see any cob houses or "eco building materials". Just allot of the same overpriced "slap it together & get it sold" crap I see everywhere els.
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                                    Fri, March 28, 2008 - 1:00 PM
                                    www.bclocalnews.com/vancouve...8772.html
                                    it talks about it in this link ,

                                    also in victoria
                                    The eco-friendly Dockside Greens in Victoria, BC, Canada promotes New Urbanism in its beautiful green condos by the sea. The harbour-front community sprawls 15 acres and offers residential, commercial and retail space.

                                    “A model for holistic, closed-loop design, Dockside Green will function as a total environmental system in which form, structure, materials, mechanical and electrical systems will be interrelated and interdependent - a largely self-sufficient, sustainable community where waste from one area will provide fuel for another,” the site explains. “Here you will find a dynamic environment where residents, employees, neighbouring businesses and the broader community will interact in a healthy and safe environment, reclaimed from disuse and contamination.”

                                    The Journal of Commerce said, “When completed, Dockside Green hopes to be the first LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) Platinum-certified community in the world.” The MACH-stat monitoring system will track the carbon footprint of the community as well as its energy, heat and water usage.

                                    “Monitors can also be programmed for remote locations to allow absent owners to control their heat and energy use from anywhere in the world through a computer and the Internet.”

                                    “The developers are hoping for a reduction of 55 per cent in energy consumption (the target is 15 gigawatt hours a year), zero greenhouse gas emissions and 60 per cent less water consumption,” the Journal reported.


                                    While there have been eco-residential and eco-industrial developments in the past, none, to our knowledge have incorporated such a wide range of uses as Dockside Green. (docksidegreen)

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                                      Tue, April 1, 2008 - 10:16 PM
                                      I live close to "Dockside Green" it's also just allot of bogus PR. Do you have any idea how toxic that ground is?


                                      What world do you live in,or are you just a shill?
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                                        Tue, April 1, 2008 - 10:30 PM
                                        Stuart's a really nice guy with really good intentions. I think he's trying to bring a positive note of hope against a backdrop of commercial materialism. The vibe I'm getting is a "if you can't beat 'em, join' em and work for change" kind of attitude. But frankly I think that's suicide given how many years babylon has left (less than 10). Now's a good time to be idealistic -- pragmatically of course. The visionaries will outlive the materialists. Blessed, the ways of Jah. Now let's hold hands and sing. And someone organize a jailbreak for our brother Trey already! (bless his soul).




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                                          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 11:43 PM
                                          I'm not sure how I feel about Trey but I'll at least try to work with anyone who is working towards real change.
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                                            Thu, April 3, 2008 - 4:56 PM
                                            Most people that have met Trey love him. The dude emits a LOT of light. He's more righteous than self-righteous. Once I met him on Commericial Drive and he fed me *delicious* figs that grow abundantly on fig trees all around the city (who knew? urban wildcrafting!) And his legal case? Well the Republican administration's charges against him are trumped -- post 9/11 terrorist charges, no less. But let's hypothetically say that he really did "mastermind" a plan to blow up a logging truck when no other humans were around for miles -- do you think he'd deserve life for that? Their jailing of him is a strategic strike by the oligarchy on the rest of us, so intended. I feel it's important that we think about and pray for him. Real change is multi-tiered! Peaaaaaaaace!

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